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Old 04-30-2009, 03:12 PM   #21
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Greddy turbo kit, leave it at the preset "out of the box" settings until you are ready to upgrade more. Keep rockin' the SOHC the Z6 is a solid motor. You could look into the 1.5 block with Z6 head also.
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or spray with some nitrous for about a grand.

correct me if im wrong im sure someone will
I will.

$1,000 to put Nitrous???

I rather Boost for that kind of Money!
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:26 AM   #23
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Greddy turbo kit, leave it at the preset "out of the box" settings until you are ready to upgrade more. Keep rockin' the SOHC the Z6 is a solid motor. You could look into the 1.5 block with Z6 head also.
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the ignition is allways a good upgrade better spark means more horsepower and better throttle response.
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plugs wires and external coil, maybe forced air intake ,fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator,the rest of your exhaust?,an adjustable cam gear. all of these are pretty cheap and a good upgrade.
Show me an aftermarket ignition setup that actually produces a noticeable power gain by itself, and I'd be amazed. Really, at this level, there's no need to upgrade the ignition system. Stock Honda ignitions are more then sufficient even if you're boosted and making 300 horses.

I don't really see a point in upgrading the fuel system either. If he was going to be adding turbo or nitrous or doing some crazy N/A build, then yeah, an upgraded pump, rail, and injectors would be necessary, but just adding those things for the sake of adding them isn't going to do anything in terms of making more horsepower...
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:26 PM   #27
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d series honda engines have a weak internal coil in the distributor adding the msd blaster coil is deffinately producing more power, like i said its not bolting on horsepower but greatly improves spark output. that means better throttle response and better ignition inside the cylinders.
Also the fuel system is a good upgrade to because in turn more fuel pressure means that the last injector in line is getting more fuel, with stock fuel system the last injector in line might not be getting as much pressure so you bump up your fuel pressure and you get a more even supply of fuel to ALL your injectors insted of the first two in line would get the most of the pressure and the last two will have less pressure because they are at the end of the line. all of these things i am talking about are just making you engine more efficient, in turn makes u faster.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:37 PM   #28
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shit now that i think about it do some weight reduction that will help for sure. Go ahead and question that one, accord ex, with an automatic b18 integra l0l thats a waste of time. but mostly money. it would prob cost u like 10 G s to make that worth anything.
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oh pata i was being sarcastic when i said spray with nitrous sorry i was not serious
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I realize this thread is old, but since you decided to bring it back I might as well address your points...

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d series honda engines have a weak internal coil in the distributor adding the msd blaster coil is deffinately producing more power, like i said its not bolting on horsepower but greatly improves spark output. that means better throttle response and better ignition inside the cylinders.
Also the fuel system is a good upgrade to because in turn more fuel pressure means that the last injector in line is getting more fuel, with stock fuel system the last injector in line might not be getting as much pressure so you bump up your fuel pressure and you get a more even supply of fuel to ALL your injectors insted of the first two in line would get the most of the pressure and the last two will have less pressure because they are at the end of the line. all of these things i am talking about are just making you engine more efficient, in turn makes u faster.
You're drinking the Kool-Aid buddy. None of that stuff is going to make a noticeable difference in power output. Like I said before, there's virtually no point in adding those things to an otherwise stock engine...

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shit now that i think about it do some weight reduction that will help for sure. Go ahead and question that one, accord ex, with an automatic b18 integra l0l thats a waste of time. but mostly money. it would prob cost u like 10 G s to make that worth anything.
He'd have to basically tear his car mostly apart to be noticeably faster. And if it's his daily driver, then that's not really practical, is it?

And don't worry about what I drive. Just worry about what I know, which is obviously more then you...
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ok you didnt prove me wrong all you did is talk shit like i dont know what im talking about, ok someone else? am i stupid or are these going to make a difference. like i said maybe not noticeable horsepower gain but much cleaner running vehicle more gas better spark and advanced timing with the cam gear WILL give you a noticeable gain.
But i guess i could slap a turbo on my stock block and blow it up in 30,000 miles yay
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all i got out of your reply is your sad because you drive an automatic and dont have a fuel system or an ignition just headers and a cold air intake. i have all the same mods as you and more and you say mine are useless there the same but i have the ignition and fuel pressure regulator and a clutch but lets see who knows more lol your funny.
(oh im sorry other people who are going to read this i pissed) and what happend to adressing my points all you said was theres no point. thats all you got, prove me wrong.
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arent there rules about cussing on here?

94accordex isnt trying to be negative. when i read what he typed, it just looks like he is giving facts about whatever is asked or said. you're just taking things too negative. i know reading is more difficult to understand that someones not being negative toward another. ive been there.

maybe i shouldnt even jump into this either, but i thought id just tell you.
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haha. yeah, but in like every thread, this guy is cussing. i know Ben has it under control though
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I've noted the replies here. I don't have time right now, but I will address them later...
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Terrynfischer.....Ur officially Banned, Goodbye!!
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ok you didnt prove me wrong all you did is talk shit like i dont know what im talking about, ok someone else? am i stupid or are these going to make a difference. like i said maybe not noticeable horsepower gain but much cleaner running vehicle more gas better spark and advanced timing with the cam gear WILL give you a noticeable gain.
But i guess i could slap a turbo on my stock block and blow it up in 30,000 miles yay
1.) No, you're right that upgrading the ignition will keep your car running clean and at peak efficiency, but my point is that I don't know why you're bragging on those parts like they'll add any significant amount of power. Right after an upgrade like that you might notice that your car feels a little perkier, but nothing that's going to blow you back into your seat when you press on the gas.

2.) Honestly, I think the expensive MSD stuff is a rip off. You can spend hundreds of dollars on that stuff and get the same kind of response that you would from a set of slightly-fatter-then-stock NGK wires and new NGK plugs. Most Honda ignitions can handle a decent amount of power from the factory. If you're talking about a mostly stock engine (no N/A build, no turbo, etc.), then I just cannot justify spending hundreds on an expensive MSD ignition. That money would be better spent on something like a header which might actually add a few horses.

3.) Like I said, you're just drinking the Koul-Aid if you think that upgrading the fuel system on an otherwise stock engine is going to do much of anything. Once again, if you're not boosted or built to the point where you need extra fuel and you need to be able to adjust your fuel pressure, then there's no point in spending money on that stuff. When you're at the bolt-on level (intake/header/exhaust), all you really need to do is reset the ECU to take advantage of your bolt-ons. A fancy after-market rail and an FPR is just overkill. (EDIT: Let it be noted that I'm speaking in reference to the older B and D-series engines here. On the newer K-series, you can actually see some pretty decent gains from bolt-ons combined with tuning).

4.) And yes, you're completely right when you say that tuning with an adjustable cam sprocket can net you a few extra horses, but as far as I can recall this is the first time you've brought that up. Up to this point, it's just been all "Check out my MSD Blaster Coil!" and "Look at my adjustable FPR!". Am I wrong?

5.) I've seen stock engines boosted and lasting a long, long time, and I've seen built engines fall apart under boost. The longevity of a turbo setup is all in the condition of the motor and the quality of the tuning.

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all i got out of your reply is your sad because you drive an automatic and dont have a fuel system or an ignition just headers and a cold air intake. i have all the same mods as you and more and you say mine are useless there the same but i have the ignition and fuel pressure regulator and a clutch but lets see who knows more lol your funny.
(oh im sorry other people who are going to read this i pissed) and what happend to adressing my points all you said was theres no point. thats all you got, prove me wrong.
So you're saying that your upgraded coil and FPR make up for the fact that my car has 15 more horses and 15 more ft/lbs torque then yours right off the bat, and that's aside from a decent quality intake, header, and exhaust? Transmissions aside, I still think I'd run faster. This debate is rather pointless anyway though, because it's not like either of these cars are big time, high-horsepower rides to begin with.

I'll leave this thread open for now so you can have a chance to respond again. If it just heads towards insults and rants though, then it's just going to get locked down...

EDIT: Oh, and if it will appease you, then I'll be happy to post some pictures of my daily beater 94 Integra with manual transmission, just so you know that I can actually drive a stick...
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Terrynfischer.....Ur officially Banned, Goodbye!!
Nah, it's alright. He's entitled to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it. If it gets to the point where it's nasty then I'll shut him down...
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